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  1. Jamie
    Jamie says:

    Two-way sync does not work for DNG-files. C1 does not write to RAW files of any kind, only to XMP sidecars. PM does not read from nor write to XMP sidecars if there is a DNG present. (Since DNG is an open standard, it doesn’t need sidecars. Therefore, they ignore them. I have confirmed this with PM.)

    I tried all day to get this configuration to work. C1 will pick up changes created by PM, because PM embeds them into the DNG. But, PM doesn’t even see changes made by C1, because C1 writes only to the XMP.

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    • Image Alchemist
      Image Alchemist says:

      Hi Jamie,
      Thank you for your comments. You confirm what I said in the blog, that DNG is a different animal with regard to how PM always embeds metadata and Capture One does not (never). I was however able to sync metadata via XMP file back from Capture One to PM when I prepared the blog. Maybe my PM settings are different?
      Best, Paul Steunebrink / Image Alchemist

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  2. Jamie
    Jamie says:

    Hi Paul,
    yeah, I’d had tried all of this a few years ago, but got some nasty problems with keywords, so I gave up. Your article, combined with a desire to geotag my DNGs (via GPX-files) got me working on this. But, it’s definitely not supported by PM now. I have confirmation from PM (in their forum) that PM will not read/write to XMP sidecars if there is a DNG present.

    Seems like both companies are being a bit stubborn. But, I suppose they have their reasons.

    Cheers,
    Jamie

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  3. Chris
    Chris says:

    I am in the process of switching to Capture One from Lightroom and have been thinking about using Photo Mechanic in unison with C1. I have two questions for you: 1) Would you recommend using the new Photo Mechanic Plus or the older version 6 without the cataloging feature? 2) Do you use sessions or catalogs in C1 along with Photo Mechanic? Thanks!

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    • Image Alchemist
      Image Alchemist says:

      Hi Chris,
      1) Since I have not used Photo Mechanic Plus yet, I do not feel entitled to make any recommendations. I have a review of this software on my task list. 2) I do use sessions when working in combination with Photo Mechanic.
      Best, Paul Steunebrink / Image Alchemist

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  4. Bob Hansen
    Bob Hansen says:

    Paul
    I have just read your two excellent articles “Sync Metadata Between Photo Mechanic And Capture One” and “Filter and Search in Capture One”.
    I have question – are you using sessions or a catalog and are these articles written for both or just one – ie. sessions. I ask because my experience with the syncing of metadata in and out of CO1 has some real issues if using a catalog. I got stung very badly using catalogs v 10 & 11 and have not even attempted and syncing now in v20. – my system slowed often to not responding and often color tags, ratings and iptc data disappeared.
    As well I wonder about filtering and searching in sessions as there are usually only a smaller set of image files vs in a catalog with 10’s of thousands of files. Again using a catalog of 110,000 images in v20 everything runs well except when I want to filter or search. I run a fairly quick win10 system with 32gb ram and i9 cpu. To just load the “all images collection” to even start a filter or search take over 21 minutes. My 2019 album of 7,500 images takes over 2 minutes to count the images before I can start a search.
    I went through all your suggestions and they made no difference in the times.
    Any suggestions?
    Thanks
    Bob

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    • Image Alchemist
      Image Alchemist says:

      Hi Bob,
      The articles you refer to were written with a Session in mind. I should make that probably more clear.
      Regarding your search in larger Catalogs, yes, that can be slow as indexing seems to be a weak point in the Catalog design. Some users occasionally import their Catalog into a new Catalog, to start with a fresh database to speed things up considerably.
      Best, Paul Steunebrink / Image Alchemist

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  5. Patrick
    Patrick says:

    Hi Paul,

    Very interesting blog.

    I just discover photomechanic. As I do mostly event’s, I’m interesting to be able to make curling during import, so I’ll must buy photomechanic in a few time.

    I have the habit to use *.xmp with my *.NEF so the synchronization is not really a problem.

    In CO a catalog of 10 000 pictures seems to me a Maximum, after it’s beginning very slow to use.

    I want to put all my catalogs on a big DAM of about 1 Million pictures.
    I was thinking to Imatch, but now there is Photomechanic Plus so I must do a choice.
    Because Imatch don’t agree with NEF, I must sort in TIF or JPG. To be able to put all my pictures on one disk, I was thinking to sort all of them in small JPG, using Jpmini which work well,.

    Now if it’s possible to sort the pictures in NEF with adjustments and metadatas directly in the DAM of photomechanic Plus, it will be better and a lot of less work.
    Do you know if it’s possible ?

    Do you think to use Photomechanic Plus in the future ? Or do you use an another DAM, or no DAM at all ?

    King regards

    Patrick

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